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This is a composite of reportings from a range of people with multiple
acute attacks of Porphyria.
“She had an attack. In Casualty she was given three bags of
ten percent dextrose* & non stop stat. Needed less morphine. Six
(6) mg of largactil stopped the vomiting. We were home in under five
hours.
They took electrolytes during the second or third bag without
stopping the dextrose.
At home she ate five pieces of toast with vegemite, had a cup
of tea with sugar then slept for twelve hours. The next day she had
no pain - didn’t even need Panadol.
On other occasions when the electrolytes have been low she
had a bag of saline run in parallel so that the dextrose didn’t
get stopped. Two pump lines going into one vein.
The day after
her attacks we do a de-brief. We talk about what worked and what could
be done better. This was how we got better at
working with the doctors so fewer things went wrong.”
* Good overview references regarding the use
of 10% dextrose and haem-arginate include:
Thadani H, Deacon A, and
Peters T, (London), “ Diagnosis
and management of porphyria,” British Medical Journal, Vol 320,
1647-51, 2000
and Kauppinen R, (Helsinki), “ Porphyrias”,
the Lancet, 15 Jan 2005
“If it all goes right I ask for two or three days off work and
take it easy for a week. People at work can’t tell that I was
so ill two days before. After this I go on a high-prevention lifestyle
for at least a month.”
Tips from a collection of de-brief talks:
- “We got to casualty early – within
an hour of the pain starting. She was triaged as urgent and got the
dextrose started a few minutes later as the staff knew that the quicker
its started the quicker she is out of there.”
- “It’s hard to get a vein. Veins are
difficult, they have shrunk, possibly with dehydration. A good experienced
casualty nurse can usually get a bung in. The only thing I hate ,
if they stop trying to get one. Even though we can’t have lignocaine,
I know the pain is nothing compared to Porphyria pain.”
- “Some doctors have tried 5 percent dextrose.
It doesn’t work properly. It seems as if, with the biofeedback
loop, it takes 10 per cent, enough to kick the loop out. It needs
to be continuous and fast enough and concentrated enough. 10% dextrose
works and even sometimes a 50% push, though its hard on the veins.”
- “6 mg of chlorpromazine (Largactil), that
is 1/8th of a dose by injection, or ¼ tablet, stops the vomiting
and sometimes settles the panicky feeling. We can’t have Valium
or Maxolon. These two are on the unsafe list and likely to make the
attack worse. Stemetil is on the safe list but too much of it sometimes
has funny effects.
- “Too much Largactil too early makes me too
disorientated to cope – but I accept a small dose at the point
after the worst of the pain and if I have begun vomiting.”
- “We use Betadine instead of alcohol swabs
for drip sites etc. Alcohol is on the unsafe list. A sugar bung is
a good bug-breeder but if the attack is stopped quickly it’s
not a problem.”
- “If the dextrose doesn’t
stop the attack, or signs of neurological problems are appearing,
we start
asking for haem-arginate *. & If given early
enough, Haem-arginate makes the difference between one week in hospital
or five weeks as
well as months to recover. Or worse - permanent damage.
- “They say Haem-arginate won’t reverse
an established neuropathy. But we also know that even brain lesions
and paralysis can reverse if an attack is stopped.” **
- “Neuropathy for me starts with my feet - ‘socks’ one
at a time.”
* Thadani et al ibid and Kauppinen ibid 2005
** King PH, Bragdon AC, “MRI reveals multiple reversible cerebral
lesions in an attack of acute intermittent porphyria", Neurology,
Vol 8 , 1300-02, 1991
and Auchincloss S, and Pridmore S (Hobart), the Lancet
- “Oral carbohydrates can work as a preventer
but once into attack, absorption doesn’t seem to work (even
peristalsis fails).
- “Constipation is a dehydrator and is part
of an attack. But laxatives that depend on peristalsis don’t
work. It’s best to stop the attack.”
- “Recovery and prevention lifestyle: a simple
one is 2 hourly boiled rice and lots of drinks of water 2- 6 litres
per day (this is in addition to any other drinks – tea, coffee
and especially coca cola seem to dehydrate) Other carbohydrates rice,
pasta, potato, bread with minimum preservatives are good when the
rice gets too boring.”
- “We have found a good family dietician and
a good family pharmacist are real helps with prevention. Our pharmacist
checks everything we have whether the doctor has written the script
or it’s the ingredients in over-the-counter cough syrup etc.
This pharmacist has seen me so sick from past attacks when the effects
lasted for months. We don’t take medications that aren’t
on the safe list unless we are in a low risk time and do a monitored
trial according to the testing regimen.”
- “In the de-brief after an attack, go through
all the possible triggers. First and foremost is medication. The
second is dehydration, thirdly fasting (eg. skipped breakfast) is
looked at. Then there is womens’ own oestrogen peak time and
severe stress and even exhaustion. Often, and usually, we find a
combination of factors. It is interesting that there are usually
many hours (maybe 12 hours) between the trigger and the start of
the attack – it seems to take time to build up the biofeedback
loop. Once, when I was given a slow acting drug that has to build
up in your system, it didn’t seem to give me an attack straight
away but I found I was having more frequent attacks ‘til I
finally went off that medication. Smoking works like that too.
- “Of course alcohol is also a trigger. Some
people think they can get away with drinking if it is managed but
all you need is another little trigger to tip you into attack and
then you are always more susceptible for future attacks.”
- “I used to go drinking when I was younger,
but after one period of being sick with a bad prolonged attack, now
my body can’t even have one glass or I pay for it with so much
pain. People don’t believe the pain can be that bad.”
- “I think of an attack as having two
tipping points: one into the biofeedback loop and another out of it. To “kick
out” of an attack dextrose needs to be “thick” enough
and fast enough. 5% is not enough and at least the first 2 bags needs
to be stat. Third or subsequent bags can be slowed but not stopped
or the attack builds again. In an ‘at-risk’ phase sometimes
it’s something little that tips you into an attack.”
- “One thing that used to go really wrong
was that the vomiting used to really get out of control. Fine-tuning
the dose of anti-emetic made a difference and especially getting
to the hospital quicker.”
- “I had an attack where pain wasn’t
such a problem but I went ‘gar-gar’. My family had trouble
convincing the doctor that it was Porphyria. Eventually, a nurse
who knew me and knew what I was normally like, persuaded the night
doctor to give me dextrose. The next morning I woke up normal. I
told her she saved my brain.
- “Another time a doctor didn’t want to
give me dextrose as my blood pressure was high. I explained that
Porphyria can make your blood pressure go high and if we stopped
the attack it would go down again. I told him I would rather take
that risk. We settled on me taking beta-blockers along with the dextrose.”
- “Rule of thumb for daily dextrose:
300 mg dextrose daily non stop as a preventer eg. for an operation
or other
fasting periods, and 600 mg to get out of an attack or until the
Haem-arginate arrives. (We remind the staff to check electrolytes
because hyponatremia is not nice.)”
- “I know some of the other people who have acute
attacks say the dextrose works best for them if its run stat, as fast as
possible. I like the first bag fast but the second bag a bit slower, so
that a two bag infusion lasts 3 hours. If it is too fast for me, I get
a migraine. But to work properly it must be continuous, with the second
bag ready to hook up straight away.”
- “Until better management was achieved, too
many fits were happening. Bad Porphyria can cause fitting or huge
doses of pethidine but electrolyte imbalance seems to be a big reason.”
- “On the other hand insufficient
pain medication is a big problem in an attack. High doses early seemed to work better
than trying to hold back on the opioids. After the first wee, pain
seemed easier but exhaustion makes it harder to manage. And if the
pain is controlled and you can get sleep then you can get over the
attack. “
- “It seems that the hormones that are a by-product
of severe pain, feed and escalate an attack. I want enough pain
relief so that the attack stops. If I can get to sleep it off, I need no
medication at all until the next attack. But if they don’t
give me enough pain relief I seem to go into a rumbling attack for
weeks with pain that just wearingly lingers round. I end up having
more medication that way.”
- “I have heard that your metabolic
rate slows in sleep so sleep becomes a treatment for a Porphyria attack. But
you need to be out of pain to get proper sleep.”
- “Pethidine works better for most of us but we
started switching to morphine when the dose gets too high.”
- “I read* that dependence is unlikely in Porphyria
if the attacks are treated and stopped.”
* Professor Elder, University of Wales porphyria pages
- “It is much better now that they know
to get the next bag of dextrose ready before the last one runs out.
In the past, the attack used to build again while we waited for the
next bag.”
- “Sometimes in a really bad attack I was
put in recovery and on all the monitors. I can get really “tachy” in
an attack (really fast heart rate) or I can black out on sitting
up, if my blood pressure suddenly drops. Or, if the pain is incredibly
bad and I need a lot of medication. Also I used to have fits before
we got better at managing attacks.”
- “One time when casualty was really busy they put
me in a recliner chair and got the dextrose going. I was so grateful for
this rather than having to wait until a bed was available. The attack was
stopped before I became a serious emergency case with the prospect of weeks
in hospital. The next morning I went home.”
- “One day I would like to see that anyone
having too many attacks has a team (like diabetes or a heart coaching
team) who goes through their lifestyle searching for triggers and
how to prevent them. I had a good hospital dietician who helped with
managing diet. And another team offered yoga lessons to reduce stress.
Whatever it takes.”
- “The obvious triggers are medication, dehydration,
alcohol and fasting. The subtle ones, the ‘last straws’,
are harder. From passive dope smoking to some cough mixtures, alcohol
mouth wash, contraception and maybe even oestrogen in soy milk or
sulphur dried sultanas or dehydrating from too much coffee and coca
cola. Or when the Council is using bitumen in your street.”
- “I know that I can die in attack. Or go
paralysed. Or have other long term or permanent damage. My doctor
knows that with all the things we have learned, I can get treated,
not have to be admitted to hospital and then I can go back to uni.”
If anyone has any additions to these annecdotes, or finds
something different, please let us know.
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